Philip Mallis

PTV disruption information & extreme weather

The storms and winds of the past fortnight or so have been affecting most of southeastern Australia. From fallen trees to power outages there has been widespread disruption. This includes public transport.

So far it has escaped relatively unscathed compared to some previous times. In this post I want to show another example of some of the ways that PTV continues to show confusing, incorrect and inconsistent public transport information related to disruptions.

There were a couple of these affecting public transport on 2 September 2024. The first and perhaps most disruptive was the complete suspension of the Sandringham Line and replacement of all train services with buses.

Put the most important information first

To start with, as you can see in the screenshot above, we have the usual problem where relatively minor information is given visual and written priority over far more significant things.

The closure of some pedestrian access at Flinders Street Station for Metro Tunnel works is listed first. The far more significant and arguably important information – that buses are replacing trains – comes second. A relatively minor gripe perhaps but these all add up.

Use a consistent written and visual language

Next is something important that I’ve written about before – the way that disruptions are displayed in various ‘disruptions’ pages and apps.

Compare the two screenshots below – the first from the train disruptions page and the second from trams.

You’ll notice that the Sandringham Line is shown in the first image with a black icon and “Part Suspended” displayed as text. In the second image a disruption is shown for Route 6 which is shown with a yellow icon and “Service Information”.

Both the yellow colour of the icon and the “Service Information” text indicate that this is a lesser disruption than the bustitution for the Sandringham Line. But these are in fact showing the same type of disruption as you can see below, because buses are replacing trams on the Route 6 as well.

These are exactly the same type of disruption and yet they are displayed in completely different ways. This inconsistency is confusing and difficult to understand for passengers.

Another point is that there is an incorrect day. The website refers to Tuesday 2 September instead of Monday 2 September. I would say that at least some people are liable to think that it is in fact for tomorrow rather than for today (as did I at first).

The Sandringham Line disruption page also spells “September” incorrectly but this is a minor issue.

Explain why there is a disruption

Finally I would like to highlight the very vague reasons given for disruptions. This has been pointed out by others before (I can’t find the tweet because the search function is completely broken over there) and there has been some academic research too.

In Australia and particularly Victoria, there is often very little information publicly provided about the cause of a public transport disruption. Usually it is just “due to an incident” or something similar. In this particular case it is simply listed as “due to extreme weather” which doesn’t actually provide the reason why services aren’t running.

Compare this to Network Rail in the UK. A randomly selected disruption from today on their page is here.

For a start the headline is very clear: “Delays between Peterborough and London Kings Cross expected until the end of the day“. This gives most of the information that most people need in a single sentence and prominently at the top of the page.

Then the page tells you clearly which lines are affected and the type of disruption.

Most importantly it goes into a lot of detail on the cause and nature what is happening. It begins with “A broken rail at Hatfield means that some lines towards London are blocked. As a result, trains between Peterborough and London Kings Cross may be delayed by up to 30 minutes.” Note that it even includes a link to the term ‘broken rail’ with even more information what this entails.

It continues with more information and further explains what Network Rail are doing to fix the problem.

Compare this to PTV’s disruption page, where the information provided consists entirely of these two sentences that also contains contradictory information: “Passengers are advised that due to extreme weather, buses are ordered to/currently replacing Sandringham train services between Sandringham and South Yarra Stations. It is not known at this stage when normal services will resume.” (emphasis is mine).

All of this ties back to my previous posts about public transport disruption and general information in Victoria. There’s a lot we can learn from other places and a lot of improvements that we can make.


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5 responses to “PTV disruption information & extreme weather”

  1. The standard of the information given to us is disgraceful. The vague terms used by all are woefully inadequate. What soothes the passengers is knowing exactly what has caused the delay, and it will help the authorities if a reason beyond the system’s control is obvious. I don’t have enough fingers or toes to count the misinformation given out by Yarra Trams and PTV in last couple of years. There must be tens of people who work in the disruption information department. Yet, it just gets it so wrong, so often.

  2. “Planned works” is vague and could be replaced by “Night works” or “Weekend works”, which are more informative. Even more informative would be to replace “Part suspended” with “Suspended South Yarra to Sandringham”. The metrotrains disruptions calendar is the most useful of all the websites, but again doesn’t distinuish between night works and works that occupy the entire day.

  3. Lukas Parker Avatar
    Lukas Parker

    When you use the PTV app to plan your trip and it shows 8 service disruptions that have no bearing on your journey (eg toilets closed or parking reduced on stations you are not getting off at) but you have to sift through the irrelevant guff to find the real disruptions that you need to know.

  4. Disruptions could also be shown in the Journey Planner as well.

    Got caught out yesterday, when the second last train was cancelled, but the cancellation didn’t show up in the disruptions section of the Journey Planner at all.

    I’ve also been burnt by incorrect disruption information on the 220 bus stops, and in the Journey Planner as well.

    Signage on the stop said works finish 31st of March, but when I tried to catch it on April 1st, the bus was still diverting. A disruption notice wasn’t in the PTV app as well.

  5. […] public transport system is subject to frequent and significant disruptions. There was no week-long period without any planned disruptions to the train or tram network for all […]

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